Question about the nightly builds

[rawuest]

not yet?

well supposedly I've missed the phial and a thanc dagger...

I never did like the preserve mode, since it removed artifacts out of feelings if they should of appeared before that level. Sp I always play with no preserve, used to never dive so it wasn't much of a concern either way. But now I am trying to dive never got superb or special feeling but missed 2 artifacts

[takkaria]

Originally Posted by rawuest

not yet?

well supposedly I've missed the phial and a thanc dagger...

I never did like the preserve mode, since it removed artifacts out of feelings if they should of appeared before that level. Sp I always play with no preserve, used to never dive so it wasn't much of a concern either way. But now I am trying to dive never got superb or special feeling but missed 2 artifacts

You should play with preserve. (Level feelings are broken atm, but the dungeons generated are the same.)

[rawuest]

Originally Posted by takkaria

You should play with preserve. (Level feelings are broken atm, but the dungeons generated are the same.)

please explain how they are currently broken? I'm still getting differing level feelings? But like I said if the artifact is not OOD the feelings under preserve give you no clue if an artifact is around. So if your not searching every room on a level it easy to not find them. I honestly just found out before this character I was accidentally playing with preserve on! And only one character had found the phial, got it off wormy.

I also originally never liked the negative aspect of the maximize road, what you gain at the beginning for that race you lose at the end since the stats with negatives cannot reach their max anymore. Is that still true

[Pete Mack]

Originally Posted by rawuest

please explain how they are currently broken? I'm still getting differing level feelings? But like I said if the artifact is not OOD the feelings under preserve give you no clue if an artifact is around. So if your not searching every room on a level it easy to not find them. I honestly just found out before this character I was accidentally playing with preserve on! And only one character had found the phial, got it off wormy.

I also originally never liked the negative aspect of the maximize road, what you gain at the beginning for that race you lose at the end since the stats with negatives cannot reach their max anymore. Is that still true

Yes, it is still true. But Maximize is significantly easier for almost all races, with the exception of Human and possibly Half-elf, along with certain challenge class/race combinations. With maximize mode, the racial bonuses add beyond 18/100, which makes reaching 18/200 in your critical stats a whole lot easier. (Obviously, Ogre Mage has a hard time reaching 18/200 INT, but that is hardly a weakness of Maximize mode.)

[rawuest]

Originally Posted by Pete Mack

Yes, it is still true. But Maximize is significantly easier for almost all races, with the exception of Human and possibly Half-elf, along with certain challenge class/race combinations. With maximize mode, the racial bonuses add beyond 18/100, which makes reaching 18/200 in your critical stats a whole lot easier. (Obviously, Ogre Mage has a hard time reaching 18/200 INT, but that is hardly a weakness of Maximize mode.)

I use maximize nowadays, but when it was first introduced I never liked the idea. Granted when ya get more characters killed by dumb mistakes than get them to get any stat to 18/200. It never matters if you used maximize or not!