Autorepeat with open locks

Twilight · June 25, 2010, 08:16

I'd like to be able to disable the autorepeat for open locked doors, at least for those with low skill. I think it repeated up towards 100 times with my lowlevel Half-Troll character recently. Anyone with a quick fix?

This is a bit irritating when you go for a low turncount. I guess I could *try* and change my behaviour towards closed doors, but I'm quite certain it'll be hard to change an ingrained habit. It's also a hassle!

I probably miss something obvious. I did a search on autorepeat here as well with no luck, so I thought a quick question wouldn't hurt.

Using v3.1.2r1973 windows executable.

Pete Mack · June 25, 2010, 08:43

I have the same feeling about the new search command. I'd like to be able to make search take 1 player turn, full stop, with an additional keystroke to specify a number of half-lifes.
So:
s - search once
1s - search 1 half-life (50% confidence)
2s -search two half-lives (75% confidence)
3s - 87.5 % confidence (approximately the same as 's' in the current implementation.)

The same could equally apply to autorepeat for other commands.

ctl-l (roguelike) or ctl-6 (standard): tunnel right.
1 ctl-l or 01 ctl-6: tunnel enough times to give 50% chance of effectiveness, or once if you aren't strong enough to tunnel.

(The 0- prefix for counts is pretty useless in the roguelike keyset, but I suppose 01 ctl-l is good enough.)

For closed doors, rather than 1/2 lives, it a single 1/2 life for each lock (or trap) level, since the actual lock/trap level is secret from the player.

nullfame · June 25, 2010, 16:05

Allow me to introduce you to the "repeat obvious commands" option. It's right under the... uhhh... wait a tick... I know it's in here somewhere. Maybe I was dreaming.

PowerDiver · June 25, 2010, 22:13

Is there any way to tell the difference between a door that is simply closed, and one that is locked and needs to be picked?

Hariolor · June 26, 2010, 03:52

Aside from the message indicating "you fail to pick the lock"?

Don't think so...

Pete Mack · June 26, 2010, 04:08

No, locked doors are shown as "door", but it's obvious after the first attempt to unlock it that it is locked.

PowerDiver · June 26, 2010, 05:05

Sure, but getting "you fail to pick the lock" could cost 1K game turns with autorepeat on, and it's just too annoying to turn it off.

Pete Mack · June 26, 2010, 05:09

Right. That's why I suggested using a half-life of an easy-to-pick lock, with numeric prefixes to represent half-lives of harder-to-pick locks.

andrewdoull · June 27, 2010, 01:29

Would it make more sense to use repeated keypresses rather than a numeric prefix to indicate you want to search for higher confidence levels?

e.g.

s - search once
ss - search with 50% confidence
sss - search with 75% confidence
ssss - search with 87.5% confidence
etc.

Andrew

PowerDiver · June 27, 2010, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewdoull

Would it make more sense to use repeated keypresses rather than a numeric prefix to indicate you want to search for higher confidence levels?

e.g.

s - search once
ss - search with 50% confidence
sss - search with 75% confidence
ssss - search with 87.5% confidence
etc.

Andrew

Now that is a great solution. It also gets past the problem with Pete's suggestion which only works with roguelike keyset.

June 25, 2010, 08:16	#1
Twilight Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 58	Autorepeat with open locks I'd like to be able to disable the autorepeat for open locked doors, at least for those with low skill. I think it repeated up towards 100 times with my lowlevel Half-Troll character recently. Anyone with a quick fix? This is a bit irritating when you go for a low turncount. I guess I could try and change my behaviour towards closed doors, but I'm quite certain it'll be hard to change an ingrained habit. It's also a hassle! I probably miss something obvious. I did a search on autorepeat here as well with no luck, so I thought a quick question wouldn't hurt. Using v3.1.2r1973 windows executable.

June 27, 2010, 01:29	#9
andrewdoull Unangband maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 49 Posts: 872	Would it make more sense to use repeated keypresses rather than a numeric prefix to indicate you want to search for higher confidence levels? e.g. s - search once ss - search with 50% confidence sss - search with 75% confidence ssss - search with 87.5% confidence etc. Andrew __________________ The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more- In UnAngband, the level dives you. ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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June 25, 2010, 08:43	#2
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,856 Donated: $40	I have the same feeling about the new search command. I'd like to be able to make search take 1 player turn, full stop, with an additional keystroke to specify a number of half-lifes. So: s - search once 1s - search 1 half-life (50% confidence) 2s -search two half-lives (75% confidence) 3s - 87.5 % confidence (approximately the same as 's' in the current implementation.) The same could equally apply to autorepeat for other commands. ctl-l (roguelike) or ctl-6 (standard): tunnel right. 1 ctl-l or 01 ctl-6: tunnel enough times to give 50% chance of effectiveness, or once if you aren't strong enough to tunnel. (The 0- prefix for counts is pretty useless in the roguelike keyset, but I suppose 01 ctl-l is good enough.) For closed doors, rather than 1/2 lives, it a single 1/2 life for each lock (or trap) level, since the actual lock/trap level is secret from the player.

June 25, 2010, 16:05	#3
nullfame Adept Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 167	Allow me to introduce you to the "repeat obvious commands" option. It's right under the... uhhh... wait a tick... I know it's in here somewhere. Maybe I was dreaming.

June 25, 2010, 22:13	#4
PowerDiver Prophet Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,799	Is there any way to tell the difference between a door that is simply closed, and one that is locked and needs to be picked?

June 26, 2010, 03:52	#5
Hariolor Swordsman Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 289	Aside from the message indicating "you fail to pick the lock"? Don't think so...

June 26, 2010, 04:08	#6
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,856 Donated: $40	No, locked doors are shown as "door", but it's obvious after the first attempt to unlock it that it is locked.

June 26, 2010, 05:05	#7
PowerDiver Prophet Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,799	Sure, but getting "you fail to pick the lock" could cost 1K game turns with autorepeat on, and it's just too annoying to turn it off.

June 26, 2010, 05:09	#8
Pete Mack Prophet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,856 Donated: $40	Right. That's why I suggested using a half-life of an easy-to-pick lock, with numeric prefixes to represent half-lives of harder-to-pick locks.

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