Randarts and light sources--mapping?

Egavactip · November 25, 2015, 23:26

Since one of the new iterations of vanilla, no artifacty light source I have gotten in any of my randart games has had any sort of mapping ability. Weren't these abilities included with randart light sources previously, or am I going senile. If this was changed, was there a reason why? Because I am finding it a serious detriment. My last x number of games, including my last 2 wins, all had to do it without any artifacty mapping ability, which I found irritating.

Estie · November 25, 2015, 23:39

It is one of many changes I find irritating, too. I have gone back to playing an older version because of this and other reasons.

PowerWyrm · November 26, 2015, 13:08

Any randart Star should have mapping. If not, that's a bug.

Egavactip · November 27, 2015, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerWyrm

Any randart Star should have mapping. If not, that's a bug.

NONE of them do. In fact, I am not sure any randart object has had mapping. I've played multiple games through to a win without finding any artifact with mapping, but the lack of light sources with mapping has been the most irritating.

Egavactip · November 29, 2015, 04:46

Well, I involuntarily ended my most recent game, or I should say Osse and a teleport other fail ended the game for my 50cl half-troll warrior at around level 76 or so. But before he died, he had found every artifact star/phial/whatever and once again, NONE of them had ANY mapping ability.

I find this to be seriously irritating and I wish this bug could be fixed ASAP.

Elrond · November 29, 2015, 07:18

I just finished a game and had the same problem. The Star did not have mapping, nor any of the other randart lights I found.

luneya · November 29, 2015, 22:25

The workaround is the same as for the last annoying randart bug: just play with standard artifacts until it's fixed.

Nick · November 29, 2015, 23:27

I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4

but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.

Estie · November 30, 2015, 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4

but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.

This is excellent news, I was worried the change might be intended.

PowerWyrm · November 30, 2015, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code
I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4

but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts.

Just say it's a 4.0.3.1 version

November 25, 2015, 23:26	#1
Egavactip Swordsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 440	Randarts and light sources--mapping? Since one of the new iterations of vanilla, no artifacty light source I have gotten in any of my randart games has had any sort of mapping ability. Weren't these abilities included with randart light sources previously, or am I going senile. If this was changed, was there a reason why? Because I am finding it a serious detriment. My last x number of games, including my last 2 wins, all had to do it without any artifacty mapping ability, which I found irritating.

November 26, 2015, 13:08	#3
PowerWyrm Prophet Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,972	Any randart Star should have mapping. If not, that's a bug. __________________ PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

November 29, 2015, 23:27	#8
Nick Vanilla maintainer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 58 Posts: 9,564 Donated: $60	I didn't want to go back and add to the web of hacks resulting from ensuring 3.5 randart behaviour in 4.0 code I was trying to avoid the onslaught of "not found" jokes resulting from releasing a version 4.0.4 but clearly I'm going to fail on both counts. __________________ One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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