Comp 203

debo · March 21, 2017, 15:20

Competition 203 is up. We're playing Steamband! Thanks to clouded for the savefile.

clouded · March 21, 2017, 15:44

Some advice: Most of the experience you get will be from using unidentified items and most of the items you will get will be from the floor, so that is what you should focus on. AC is quite important. You die when your wound points run out rather than your hit points, but this is really a limiter on dive length and nothing more, you still are in a whole lot of trouble when your HP runs out.

For builds, you really need to look at the helpfiles to understand the skill tree and what to raise to unlock the next skills, looking at dumps helps a lot too. If you want to use weapon combat, focus on raising the Neophyte/Standard/etc trees and then raise the "strike/blow" skills for increasing damage, the same goes for firearms and those skills. Martial arts only really needs the skills specific for it. For spellcasting, you should always raise Latin along with the occult tree or the prayer tree (or both, that is definitely viable). As a Rakshasa Naturalist this combo also has Dark Attunement from being a Rakshasa and all of the elemental skills a naturalist gets, I forget the specifics on these so you'll need to try them out for yourself.

Qyx · March 22, 2017, 07:54

It's saying score not saved for wizards, assume that's from the savefile and nothing I did? (Steamband looks like a blast, by the way.)

clouded · March 22, 2017, 08:31

That's because I used debug mode to spawn the books and gun. I thought I'd tested to see if it marked the savefile and it didn't seem so, but maybe I was mistaken or my compile is different. Does it say anything about cheating when you make a character dump?

Qyx · March 22, 2017, 11:11

Not that I can see. All the "peek into"s say No.

debo · March 22, 2017, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qyx

Not that I can see. All the "peek into"s say No.

Shouldn't matter then. When you upload your chardump the ladder is only going to look at turncount, experience, and maxdepth (for scoring, at least.)

Qyx · March 22, 2017, 17:55

Well, I tried posting a dump to test, and it's saying turn count 0. I love this variant though, with the returning books to the library. I fought P.T. Barnum!

Qyx · March 22, 2017, 17:58

But I notice the last Steamband comp (122) had the same issue, so I guess it's just a thing with Steamband.

Nick · March 22, 2017, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qyx

Well, I tried posting a dump to test, and it's saying turn count 0. I love this variant though, with the returning books to the library.

Make sure you're 'I'nspecting the books first - that's a really good source of skill points.

debo · March 23, 2017, 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qyx

Well, I tried posting a dump to test, and it's saying turn count 0. I love this variant though, with the returning books to the library. I fought P.T. Barnum!

Luckily this will only be a problem if we have more than one winner, which I think is pretty unlikely!

March 21, 2017, 15:20	#1
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March 21, 2017, 15:44	#2
clouded Swordsman Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 267	Some advice: Most of the experience you get will be from using unidentified items and most of the items you will get will be from the floor, so that is what you should focus on. AC is quite important. You die when your wound points run out rather than your hit points, but this is really a limiter on dive length and nothing more, you still are in a whole lot of trouble when your HP runs out. For builds, you really need to look at the helpfiles to understand the skill tree and what to raise to unlock the next skills, looking at dumps helps a lot too. If you want to use weapon combat, focus on raising the Neophyte/Standard/etc trees and then raise the "strike/blow" skills for increasing damage, the same goes for firearms and those skills. Martial arts only really needs the skills specific for it. For spellcasting, you should always raise Latin along with the occult tree or the prayer tree (or both, that is definitely viable). As a Rakshasa Naturalist this combo also has Dark Attunement from being a Rakshasa and all of the elemental skills a naturalist gets, I forget the specifics on these so you'll need to try them out for yourself.

March 22, 2017, 07:54	#3
Qyx Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 64	It's saying score not saved for wizards, assume that's from the savefile and nothing I did? (Steamband looks like a blast, by the way.)

March 22, 2017, 08:31	#4
clouded Swordsman Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 267	That's because I used debug mode to spawn the books and gun. I thought I'd tested to see if it marked the savefile and it didn't seem so, but maybe I was mistaken or my compile is different. Does it say anything about cheating when you make a character dump?

March 22, 2017, 11:11	#5
Qyx Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 64	Not that I can see. All the "peek into"s say No.

March 22, 2017, 17:55	#7
Qyx Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 64	Well, I tried posting a dump to test, and it's saying turn count 0. I love this variant though, with the returning books to the library. I fought P.T. Barnum!

March 22, 2017, 17:58	#8
Qyx Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 64	But I notice the last Steamband comp (122) had the same issue, so I guess it's just a thing with Steamband.

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